The correct response is, for what? It shoots as flat as a Kansas prairie and holds its velocity way out there. Ditto for the .300 PRC, which fixes every shortcoming of the .300 Win Mag and as the name implies (PRC - "Precision Rifle Cartridge") was made for accuracy at extreme long distance. in earnest, awarding a contract to Federal Cartridge Co., in 1987 to produce .300 Win. Stinnett said he would take the 6.5 Grendel brass made by Lapua and run it through a sizing die until the shoulder is pushed back far enough to chamber. It honestly feels like cheating when you are behind a quality 6.5 Creedmoor. Mag. Generally, traditional Weatherby Magnum cartridges perform slightly better than their Winchester or Remington magnum counterparts. Need to drop an Elk at 500 yards? Just took me a 600+ pound cow elk 1 shot with my creedmore 200 yards away. I don't care if you have a Win Mag or a Creedmoor and can hit steel from a mile away with it. Federal was tapped to produce the ammo in 1992, and so the military had a sniper round that slotted between the .308 Win. Mag. I've been toting a T3 Lite Stainless in .308 Winchester for many years. Mag. Used 85 grain Winchester preamumbalistic tip, No one ever mentions the .270 Win. tried in NAM late in the conflict, but great results. After reaching out to 1,250 yards on a trip to the amazing High Bar Homestead in Gillette, WY, I am now a firm believer in the .224 Valkyrie. Unless that backer has five distinct holes in itwhich Stinnetts didit doesnt count. It was also a resounding success and has remained popular with hunters looking to stretch their effective range. Among his requirements were that the cartridge for the rifle should be able to kill a 1,000-pound animal with one shot, that the ammunition should be widely available, that the practical field accuracy of the rifle, which should weigh seven pounds or less with scope and sling and be no longer than 39 inches from butt to muzzle, should be 2 MOA, demonstrated by the shooter placing 3-shot groups on a 200 yard target that measure four inches or less. Although it will always be there and ready if the need arises. ), 1) no At 100 yards with black powder 50 kaliber. The 6.5C shoots bullets that are more aerodynamic (higher BC) and at faster speeds.. towards your level. Nonetheless, during the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the Naval Surface Warfare Center wanted to develop a sniper round that was effective to 1,500 yards and started looking for a cartridge to fulfill that role. An added benefit with the .223 Remington is cheap, readily available ammo. While there isnt much of a cheap alternative for 6.5 CM ammunition, Lucky Gunner lists S&B 140-grain FMJs for $0.78/round. One needs look no further than how the 6.5 Creedmoor and its kin have fared in precision rifle competitions, winning time and again when the shots are on small targets at 1,000 yards or more. That versatility is what drew Col. Jeff Cooper to the round when he refined his ideas about the scout rifle. A rather odd collection but since anytime we have a "best" of anything its all subjective. I tried to pick out some popular ones on the market currently based on typical ranges most shooter's shoot out too. is the perfect Goldilocks round. Why It Made the Cut: The .300 Win. For extreme long-range competition there are a host of specialized rounds designed to hit targets placed two miles (or more) from the shooter. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. While at the High Bar Homestead with PSA, I was able to stretch their 6.5 Grendel out to 1,000 yards with Federal Premium 130 grain Bergers. While still a great long-range precision shooting cartridge, it is starting to lose ground to newer and softer shooting cartridges.". To me, those are akin to lobbing footballs at something. But don't let that stop you and keep us informed of your progress. Match those and regardless of caliber, drops will be identical. Worth a look anyway. If you like the idea of a six-five for going long, but hate the Creed and want something a bit different, the 6.5-284 Norma is the way to go. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. Mag. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. Big, heavy rifles, lots of recoil. Both are of course bolt-action rifle cartridges. For long rang range hunting my list would go .257 Weatherby Magnum, the flattest shooting hunting cartridge period, Next the 6.5-.300 Weatherby Magnum, it outperforms any other 6.5 period, The .30-378 Weatherby holds 120 grains of water and outperforms any other .30 caliber cartridge and has the longest point blank range of any .30, including the Lazzeronis. Based on the now almost-forgotten .284 Winchester, the 6.5-284 Norma was originally a wildcat cartridge and a very popular one, especially in bench-rest competitions. Type your new password and hit button below to confirm it. Mag. Complete with ammo suggestions, capability, rifles, and more. Oh, I also on a 300 Win Mag too, just in case I get lucky enough to go elk hunting. The engineering of these cartridges, which gets into the minutia of rifle twist (faster), chamber dimensions (tighter), case taper (less), shoulder angle (steeper), throat lede angle (shallower), and other details, is why they are inherently more accurate, and better, than the cartridges of yore. Oh yeah. Shooting a 180-grain bullet (.507 G1 BC) at 2,960 fps and sighted in 1.5 inches high at 100 yards, the .300 Win. Steel placed at 500 yards are the bread-and-butter targets for PRS and NRL competition, so for these applications the pipsqueak 6mms are the best. It wasnt until the late 1980s that the Navy started looking at the .300 Win. Those are the hunting rifles, see a pattern? Originally established in 2003 for the AR15 platform, it is now available in bolt-action rifles as well. Beyond 600 or 800 yards, however, the efficiency of the high B.C. Regarding the comment on the 6.5C, the laws of aerodynamics don't agree with you. Mag., and the story of its adoption and evolution in that role is what really lands it on the list of best long-range calibers. It started with the .30/30 and continued with the .30/06 and .308 and right up to todays .300 Blackout. But this long range is a whole different ball game. Bill Poor recently claimed to hit a target at 5280 yards/4837 meters or 3 miles. Back in 2013, Mike Stinnett bested a benchrest record that stood for nearly 40 years when he shot a 5-shot group in competition at 100 yards that measured .0077 inches. Also the 300 Win? This upstart has been on a tear since its introduction in 2007 and evokes passionate responsesboth pro and conlike no other cartridge in recent memory. The 6.5 PRC, 7mm Rem. It seems a bit odd to consider a .22-caliber cartridge of any design suitable for long-range hunting of even smallish big game. That's not really far, but it goes to show you that having the right gear and understanding the science behind it all makes it possible to shoot very far with a very high degree of consistency. At 500 yards, the 27 Nosler drops almost a foot less than Jack OConnors sacred cartridge. I don't know if you're from the east, but that argument is typically made from someone who lives in the east and hunts woods. It's disconcerting to me that this cartridge always gets left out of the conversation. I competed in many 1000 yard and 1500 meter competitions. That handy rifle is an excellent expression of the subtle nature of the .308. Although it isnt the flattest shooting round, that trait is, ironically, overrated in a long-range round. For hunting at extended ranges, the 6.5 PRC and .300 Win. While precision match loads can be pricey, you can always run cheaper alternatives. In the world of practical precision rifle competition, exemplified by the NRL, PRS, RTC and other series, there is an arms race among light-recoiling 6mm cartridges. These numbers indicate that one of the flattest shooting commercial cartridge at sensible hunting ranges is the 220 Swift. shooting a 180-grain Accubond, one of the finest hunting bullets around. Also look at Federal Premiums 180-grain Nosler AccuBond offering at 2,960 fps. Different shooters will all have different calibers that are better suited for their specific goal or mission. Another one or two probably should have made the original list. When talking about long-range calibers and their best applications, the immediate question pops up: For what? One afternoon, after shooting a nice antelope at about 500 yards, I was walking back to the truck with the guide, and we were discussing quarter-bores, with the guide extolling his 25-06, the best of the lot. The new Federal Premium, 130-grain Terminal Ascent load with a muzzle velocity of 2825 fps shoots flat and the bullet is tough enough to handle up close impacts while still delivering good expansion at distance. That being said, no, the 300WM will not fall out of the sky at 1100m. Swifts 150-grain Scirocco at 3,036 fps delivers outstanding terminal performance. The .277 is an oddball bullet diameter, in that it doesnt fall into the much more common 6.5mm, 7mm, or .30-caliber categories. Nonetheless, 7mm bullets can be extremely aerodynamic and, as legendary elephant hunter Karamojo Bell proved, effective on even the largest animals. Of these the 6mm Dasher is the current champ, in terms of popularity and winning. Ive used it with great success on mule deer, whitetails, elk, and moose. But these niche cartridges are expensive (to put it mildly) to shoot and build guns for and arent practical for everyday shooters.For shooting out to 1,000 yards, the 6mm Creedmoor is about ideal. This newer Weatherby 6.5 combines plenty of gas with manageable recoil. If you want to shoot flat and hit hard, this is the cartridge; at 1,000 yards it hits with more than 1,500 foot-pounds of energy. Thats a lot of freedom. you a link to reset your password. The reason why 6.5mm cartridges are exploding in popularity is because they are ultra-efficient. Where the 6.5 Creedmoor excels is with its engineering. rounds to their specs. With the popularity of this cartridge due to Americas favorite rifle, the AR15, more and more people are stretching out its legs. Then theres the matter of personal preference. Shoots flatter than a 243- wheich already kicks a 6.5 cm was. It's muzzle velocity is a blistering 4145 fps. Surprisingly, even with all the extra recoil and muzzle blast, this cartridge will not shoot any flatter than most 6.5s. Ammunition choices have increased lately, and Hornady has ammunition with the 87-grain VMAX and 103-grain ELD-X for long-range hunting. If you handloaded the same heavy bullets used in the 224V and had a custom rifle built with a faster twist rate (1:8), it would either match or slightly beat the 224V. In general, lightweight bullets driven very fast shoot flatter than heavier bullets with better aerodynamics (high B.C. are all capable of fine accuracy and game-killing power at these distances. He had never shot beyond 200 yards (and only shot very little at 200). is the proverbial cat with nine lives in the long-range cartridge market. With the 6.5 PRC, Hornady has created a better version of the old barrel-burner. There are not many places you can shoot 500 yards. Change your name to Karen. .25-06 Rem The .25-06 Remington rifle cartridge used to be a rare wildcat. An F-Class shooter engages the 1,000-yard target at the Wendover, Utah, Air Force range (inactive). To overcome this design limitation, reamers were modified to tighten up the chamber, headspace the cartridge off the shoulder rather than the belt, and lengthen the throat. Ditto some of our fastest 7mms and 300s. I guess because it was my dad's and the first long distance rifle I was taught with. Yet it has proven again and again that it will deliver at distance. You are not wrong in your thoughts. When coupled with bullets that have a high ballistic coefficient, the results are impressive. Another downside is that the 6mm Creedmoor does not buck the wind, It honestly feels like cheating when you are behind a quality 6.5 Creedmoor. It just murders your shoulder, ears, and pocketbook at the same time drop in feet Shooting at 700 (In Theory) They usually start at around $300. Its a top choice of military snipers and can launch heavy bullets with high speed and exceptional precision. Richard Mann The Creedmoor carries more velocity and energy downrange with less recoil than any other factory cartridge. I wish we had as much long range shooting locations as they do out west. No matter the choice, theres no denying that we live in a golden era of rifle accuracy. But putting the emotional draws to the cartridge aside, there are still plenty of pragmatic reasons for the choice. We cover a few of our favorite long range cartridges. But the 7mm Remington Magnum will remain supersonic out to 1,400 yards or a bit more, making a good choice for cross-canyon hunting. Another and even better option for reaching out to a big game animal with an AR15 is the 6.5 Grendel. So make your pick wisely, and then get to shooting, because a cartridge can only be as accurate as the one firing it. It has ample killing power for all but the largest of game, it is easy to shoot well, the cartridge is inherently accurate. These are the calibers that I have seen shot to 2000 yards or more that are very accurate. It also induced instability that rendered the round unstable and inaccurate at 800 yards and beyond. Im drawn to this new interest in long range. Generally, long-range shooting is pure sport and for sport the effectiveness of the round on target is moot. Richard Mann was born and raised in West Virginia and has hunted from the Montana mountains to the green hills of Africa. It is a screamer, and with increased velocity comes increased range. I have used it on more big game animals than any other cartridge since 2007. For Cooper, the .308 Winchester fit the bill. and .458 Win. Shouldn't penetration at the point of termination be a consideration? Accuracy matters. I mention 600 fairly arbitrarily because we owe it to the animal to try to get as close as we can. But in the meantime, the Dasher can rightfully claim the title as the best precision rifle cartridge on the market. ), Hornadys Precision Hunter 178-grain ELD-X at 2,600 fps is probably the best long-range option, but look also at the new 168-grain Berger Hybrid Hunter load from Federal, RELATED: 6.5 Creedmoor vs. .308 Winchester. RELATED: The 10 Best Rifle Bullets for Long-Range Shooting. To explain the nuances of rifle twist rates, you can read my previous article about AR-15 Twist Rates! .308 Winchester has been around for almost 70 years and has served militaries and police forces around the world as faithfully as it has served competition shooters. What about 22-250? The Nosler AccuBond is one of the best all-round big-game bullets offered, and Weatherby has smarly offered the 140-grain version for their 6.5 RPM cartridge. If that is 100 yards for him fine, it might 1200 yards for me given my skills , equipment, training, & practice.. It sure isn't my spectacular marksmanship. Brownings 175-grain Sierra Tipped GameKing load has an advertised muzzle velocity of 2835 fps and a very high ballistic coefficient. Don't need to be a super-awesome-Operator or competitive shooter to know this. Turns out my confidence in the round was not misplaced. A legacy that inspires confidence. Anyway be safe shoot str8 and God bless. While they are relatively close within 500 yards, at 1,000 yards, the .308 Winchester has 4 feet more drop when you compare a 6.5 CM 140-grain ELD vs. a .308 Win 168-grain ELD. 36 in. There are plenty of factory guns and ammunition to choose from, and it is an easy cartridge to reload. Another downside is that the 6mm Creedmoor does not buck the wind as well as its bigger brother, the 6.5 Creedmoor. Posted January 26, 2017. If there was ever a cult cartridge, the .280 Ackley Improved is it. 28 in. Mag. It is the responsibility of any hunter to put down game as quickly and humanely as possible with a single shot. One cartridge needs to be crowned the most accurate and it just happens to be one youve probably never heard of. For good reason. If you take a left turn, you can go through an endless list of wildcat cartridges as well. The '06 has been the big-game king forever. With the right bullet and (as always) good shot placement, the 6.5 Creedmoor hits hard. For these various applications, these are my top picks among long-range calibers. Flattest at 1,000 yards Here's where things start to change. If this is a discussion on long range rifles rounds and the rifles that shoot them, then the .308 shouldnt be in the discussion. I also like my 6.5 CM I is a very good 1000 yrd gun but when it comes to big game 7mm mag is the way to go, when you are hunting two legged 200 lb game the 6.5 Creefmore is my choice I used to own a .338 win mag and a 300 win mag but got tired of the beating my shoulder was taking from them. But to choose the best long-range caliber for you, start with your own experience and interests. (, We noticed that you have previously logged in with your, Check what do you get by creating an account, Bookmark and compare your favorite firearms, 7 Best Long-Range Cartridges: Hit Stuff Really Far Away, While this may not be the first cartridge that comes to mind for long-range shooting, with an appropriate bullet, the compact .223 Remington or 5.56 NATO is, If you choose to shoot long-range with a .223 Remington, I highly suggest shooting longer, heavier bullets with a 1:7 rifle twist. I have news for you, it's not ok! Even though it is a relative newcomer, in light of its accuracy, shootability, and lethality it has earned its place as one of the best long-range calibers for hunting open country game like mule deer. For off-the-shelf accuracy, the 6.5 Creedmoor is tough to top, no matter how much the Creeds detractors might howl. 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